-Mon. Oct. 28- Thurs. Nov. 3
-As of Sunday night we were 89 miles from the Gulf
Monday morning I awoke, still thinking about the
impressively large cruise ship that passed by last night just as the sun was
setting. I almost laughed at the clash of worlds. We had been wandering around
looking for firewood when around the bend came the ship. There was nothing to
but stop and gawk. I thought of the dirt caking my pants and the smell of the
shirt I wear every day and wash every other week. Up on that boat people are
probably settling down to lobster or maybe just endless buffets, wiping their
mouths with napkins nicer and cleaner than anything in my entire belongings.
Anyways, a new day had begun and it was Halloween, though it
didn’t make much difference to us. Previously, weeks had gone by with us hardly
noticing but these last miles drag on and on. To keep myself occupied I like to
play the little children’s game “which one of these craft doesn’t belong” as we
paddle with ships on either side and up to six barges rumbling past us going
various directions—it doesn’t keep me busy for long. Throughout the day,
fighter jets swooped and flew in tandem around the river. Around noon Ben
spotted our first and only gator of the trip sunning himself on the rocky
shore, the river clay baking him a light grey.
Towards the evening we managed to find a break in the
crushed rock walls that line the river in an effort to prevent erosion and
river change. We tucked into a low sandy cove with Cyprus looking trees and
warm, fading sunset. It all looked wonderful till we hit the bank. The bugs
have been fairly docile on this trip, sometimes pesky enough to put on the long
sleeves and pants, but we had not experienced anything like what happened to us
when we stepped on that beach. The gnats came in a wave and were getting up my
nose and in Ben’s eyes. This may seem bad but these gnats aren’t just
bothersome because they buzz around you, these actually feel like they’re
chewing on you. Their bites are like a mosquito only there are so many of them
and there are so tiny. We didn’t even make dinner. Ben grabbed a bag of
pre-cooked black beans, rice, tuna salad, packets of hummus, and two bags of
chips and we ate in the tent, swatting bugs as we sat. Probably the earliest
we’ve gone to sleep on this whole trip.
In the morn Ben braved the outdoors to make oatmeal while I
packed up the sleeping gear. The gnats were all over us so, once the oats were
ready, we put everything in the canoe and ate out on the water, but the hoard
followed. We had to paddle hard to outrun them before our meal could be
enjoyed.
Tuesday, and Ben agrees, was the most arduous and
frustrating day on the water that we’ve had since we started (excepting the
first 21 miles on Sugar Creek). We paddled hard for ten and a half miles
through a strong headwind which lasted almost the entire day and only got
around three mph. We left before 8am and passed through a lot of barge and ship
traffic. Towards midday we pulled up to a mile marker to tie off and rest (the
shores are entirely stone and we didn’t want a repeat of the other day). As we
sat there we noticed three Hispanic men fishing, only their gear consisted of
fishing line wrapped around plastic water bottles with a bobber and hook at the
end. They were having a really hard time throwing the hook and bobber by hand
into the water with such a strong headwind so we took pity on their situation
and tossed to them the spinning rod my dad gave us for fishing (sorry dad;
looks like I know what your present for Christmas will be). They thanked us and
we paddled back out into the onslaught.
A few miles above Venice, LA, our destination, we
encountered a tiny little board-lined harbor but decided to continue even
though it was getting dark. Our headlamps on, we hugged the shore and watched
for ship wake. We encountered only one ship and the wake wasn’t bad. This might
be a good place to try and describe these ships. We’ve encountered tankers from
Panama to Singapore, cargos from Hong Kong to Monrovia. The ships seem to be
the length of a towboat (towboats have flat fronts and push barges, tugboats have pointed fronts and dock
ships) pushing seven or so barges. When the ships are empty they ride almost
twice as high in the water and make less wake. The most dangerous situation
occurs when a fully loaded ship is coming upriver and is beginning a turn into a
bend, especially when you’re on the outside of the bend. This happened one time
and we encountered wake up to four feet. However, the wake from ships is like a
steady, wide sine curve which we ride like a roller coaster. The wake rarely
breaks and we just end up smoothly gliding over the crests- it’s actually kind
of fun.
Anyways, as we neared Venice we passed a tiny little harbor
with a boat ramp. There were several eighteen-foot aluminum boats coming in
from the river, preparing to load back up on their trailers. While we were
still a hundred feet away one guy pointed at us and then idled his engines till
we arrived. He had a camera in his hand but yelled a few choice words when he
found out the batteries were dead. He hailed us and we noticed that he was a
fisherman for he wore those rubber bibs that commercial fishermen do. When we
were close enough he said in disbelief, “I cannot believe you guys are out on this
river today. You are fantastically (I
think that was the f-word he used… maybe it was another) crazy.” We laughed and
I wasn’t sure whether or not to be proud of our persistence through these
relentless seas or terrified that people who regularly fish this river are
afraid we’re going to die. We waved and continued on.
It was soon dark so flicking on the headlamps we pulled up
to a dormant towboat and asked a guy on the back if he knew where the Venice
boat dock was. He pointed just downriver and said, “well, it’s right there.”
The lights were no more than a hundred yards away so we headed for them. There
were plenty of boats and a concrete ramp so we pulled up and Ben got out to
find out where we were so our contact, Sandy Reno, could pick us up (Warren
Yoder [from Jackson, MS] referred us to a pastor in Venice who referred us to
Sandy). Ben climbed the gravel road leading up to the levy and looked around. I
remained back and began to unload the gear because Sandy was coming with a
truck to take the canoe. After a minute Ben yelled down to stop unloading; we
might be in the wrong spot. I went up to join him atop the levy and it appeared
as though we had landed on some fenced-in secured area. I shrugged and began to
walk back down, letting Ben figure it out. As I turned to return to the boat I
was it afloat, ten feet from shore riding some frothy wake given off by a
passing boat. I fell into a full sprint down the gravel road, losing my
flip-flops and frantically envisioning our canoe capsizing. I shimmied out the
railing along the pier and caught the canoe with my foot and guided it back to
shore. I drug it up ten feet and tied it to a slab of concrete. As I rounded
the back of the canoe I slipped and would have landed right on my tailbone but
somehow I managed to catch myself between the walkway and the canoe gunwale. I
noticed Ben talking to someone on the levy so I joined him again, still high
from my blunder with the canoe.
The officially dressed men told us we landed on homeland
security grounds which are totally off-limits. They were nice however and told
us where the real Venice boat dock
was. We packed back up, I got in the back and Ben pushed us off from the bank
and hit the pavement, slipping on the same stuff I did. I went sailing solo out
from shore and paddled back in to pick up my fallen comrade who was just fine.
The Venice inlet was only another mile and we reached the first harbor without
further injury. The wind and waves quit as we entered the harbor. We paddled
quietly passed creaking, tied shrimpers. It was fully dark and the pier lamps
cast and orange-ish glow across the water. These boats were the real deal, man.
There were all shapes, sizes, and colors- most pretty banged up.
Once the canoe was removed from the water we called Sandy
who arrived promptly. She was glad to meet us and wondered how we made it to
Venice in one canoe alive with so much stuff. Sandy
took us to her home, telling us about the city and its fateful meeting with
Katrina. “There were fridges, cars, and even semis in the trees when we
returned,” she said. We passed a large fiberglass boat sitting alongside the
road without a trailer. “Looks like someone’s throwin’ one out,” she said
dryly. We learned that “99%” of the residents of Venice are shrimpers. On the
way to her house, Sandy called “Big George,” the patriarch of the Reno family (Sandy’s
father-in-law) and lifetime shrimper, who recommended strongly that we not take
the main channel and South Pass due to a nasty cold front coming in Thursday at
noon. She finished with, “I’m taking these boys back to my house where I have
some lasagna waiting for them…” Ben and I, unscripted, both groaned
simultaneously in satisfaction, “Ohhh.” Upon arrival we went inside to the
bright kitchen lights and met her mother and niece. She told us to eat as we
pleased, directing us to the lasagna first. Her mother said, “If you don’t get
your fill it’s your fault.” We probably ate a pound of lasagna each. And it was
wonderful. They continued telling us about Katrina and brought out a photo book
that showed what a warzone this place looked like when everyone returned. Along
with the three women we met was a man named Marvin who was very concerned for
our safety because his son had disappeared in the river a week ago in a fishing
accident. The coast guard has been looking for his body with boats and planes without
success. It was tragic reminder that the river can be a dangerous place and no
one is immune from the currents.
From the kitchen we went into the living room to sit on the
soft couches and watch the news. The main story that came on concerned New Orleans
and Halloween. Apparently, last night there was a drive-by shooting at the
corner of Canal and Bourbon Streets with sixteen people wounded (maybe some
killed?). We were shocked not only by the tragedy but that we had been standing
at the corner of those two streets two days ago.
From her house Sandy took us to the house of a friend to see
the wild hog that was shot today. We pulled up to the trailers and walked over
to meet the family. One guy had the skinned hog strung up and was beginning to
remove the meat. To the left, a lady had just finished stitching up a wound in
the chest of one of the hunting dogs received during the fight with the beast.
Both dogs had puncture wounds and we were told that the hog had been shot as it
ran at one of the guys, an enraged dog clamped to each ear both being dragged
through the woods. The guy pointed to the skin on the ground. The hog was pure
jet black and had a devilish look on its face, though it could do no more harm.
The man at the hog pulled out a short machete and hacked off the ribs. From
then on we tried to find a way to go hog hunting before we left.
From the trailer Sandy drove us down the road and dropped us
off at their church, Lighthouse Fellowship, where she told us to make ourselves
at home and to eat the food and drink the beverages. It was great to have a place that felt
semi-permanent, a place where we could sprawl out. The church fellowship hall
had a full kitchen, shower, and bunk beds. All of these we used.
Wednesday morning Marvin, the lone man at Sandy’s house last
night, came to pick us up at the church with his truck. Just before he arrived,
Big George came over and spread a map of the Mississippi Delta before us. He
showed us the various options for entry into the Gulf. We could go east or west
but whenever we asked questions about going down the main channel, he answered
as though he really didn’t want us going that way. I asked him about the beach
at the end of South Pass to which he replied, “in my over thirty years of
shrimpin’ I have never seen a beach at the end of South Pass.” It sounded like
there was no place to land which was a definite problem because if we paddle
twenty-two miles to the end and have no place to land we’ll have to immediately
paddle back, against the current. He showed us an alternate route called Red
Pass which was shorter, more sheltered from the wind, and had a small beach at
the end. Those factors, combined with how late it already was in the morning,
influenced us to choose Red Pass instead of the route we had chosen before we
even started the trip.
Marvin showed up while George discussed our options. We put
the canoe in Marvin’s truck and left for the river. We put in where we had
gotten out the night before and headed directly west out of the harbor, trying
to avoid the heavy boat traffic I hadn’t expected would be there. There were
fishermen in sleek bass boats and Boston Whalers flying around the corners and
lots of “crew boats” sending supplies out to the offshore oilrigs. Using Big
George’s map we made our way through the narrow channels lined with tall reeds
beginning to turn brown in the cooling autumnal weather. Ben and I laughed at
the width of the channel, being no more than fifty feet wide. We might have to change our phrase to “Sugar
to Sugar”—it was about the same width. About a mile underway I began to have a
sinking feeling of regret concerning our change of course. For over a year I’ve
been thinking about the tip of South Pass and now we’re doing the cheap
imitation. But there was no turning back so we continued. There were marsh
lands to either side with many birds including but not limited to cranes,
herons, pelicans, ducks, gulls, and spoonbills which were different degrees of
pink based on the amount of shrimp they eat (or so Ben told me). We began to
catch whiffs of the ocean breeze as we neared, hoping to see the Gulf with each
passing turn. I think my heart raced a little. It was around nine miles in all
but we finally rounded a bend and the trees and stopped… eternally. There were
no more bends in the river, no more miles to count or maps to observe. This was
the Gulf. It was another mile before we got to the end of the land. About a
hundred yards out I caught, in my peripherals, a glimpse of a fin. I swung my
head to the left in time to see a grey fin disappear. “Shark! Dolphin! Shark?
Dolphin?” I yelled. Once it resurfaced and I got a better glimpse of its fin
and heard the blowhole I knew it was a dolphin. The little pod of five or so
followed us to the left and rear while we put in the literal finishing strokes
on the figurative canvas that has been this trip. The Gulf opened wide before
us with small islands to the right and oil derricks far off on the horizon.
Speaking of horizons, the Gulf oil spill, we heard, happened just thirty miles
south of the end of South Pass, maybe fifty miles from where we stood; there
were no tar balls or residue. Not wanting to leave the dolphins we paddled and
floated out a little ways and watched them porpoise around us. The weather was
perfect and the fact that we now had ocean waves moving us around nearly made
me laugh out loud with delight.
Though it was high tide we found the remains of a beach and
pulled up the canoe. I immediately dug up some sand to fill the upper half of
the glass bottle which already houses the sand I gathered from Sugar Creek the
day we left Kidron. We filled bottles with shells and kept a few angel wing
clamshells. There was a photo shoot to do and by the time we got to that the
gnawing gnats and scathing skeeters had zeroed in our location and attacked. We
spent most of the rest of our time there standing in the water as far away from
them as we could. We stayed probably longer than we should have because by the
time we left it was going to be dark before we got back. About a mile up the
channel a twenty-foot, white fiberglass boat pulled up beside us. There were
two fishermen in the boat who asked us if we wanted a ride. I paused for a
second, remembering how on principle we must do this trip by ourselves but then
consented because it was getting late, we still had a long ways to go, and we
were tired. The guys’ names were L.A. and Pat. We loaded up the boat and he
roared off at about twenty-five mph. over the loudness of the engine he spoke
of the pity he had for us. We watched the reeds fly by and laughed at what our
movements on the GPS locator must look like compared to normal paddling. at one
point L.A., who was driving, leaned over and yelled to Pat in the front of the
boat, “This is better than running
them over!” we laughed and then he said, “Wanna go 60 [mph]?” We again laughed.
They dropped us off next to the main harbor and we paddled the rest of the way
to the harbor where we put in earlier that day. Ben called Marvin who came
speedily and took us back to the church. We put on some music and put a pizza
in the oven. We each ate half and then cleaned up.
In the morning Ben and I decided to paddle to mile zero (the
point where the river ends and it breaks off into three channels). The main
channel ends eleven miles south of Venice and then we would have to paddle
back. Marvin so faithfully came and picked us up for the last leg of our
journey. However, when he found ouot we were going down the main river today he
lost his smile and began to try to persuade us in every which way not to do it.
It’s true, there was a cold front coming in but we’ve endured weather like that
and I knew we could do it. We plopped the canoe and gear into the water and in
a last-ditch effort Marvin called several shrimpers who all recommended we not
go. One said that the shrimpers were coming in because of the weather and that
the front could have winds over twenty mph. Now, twenty mph headwinds would be
possibly too much for us to bear on the way back and since the big boats were
coming in we decided to scrap the whole thing for the day, to Marvin’s relief
and my frustration. That right there finished our trip. I thought back to the
moment when we got out of the water yesterday and realized that was the final
moment– that we were “done.” We were loading up the canoe when Big George
called saying that he was coming in from shrimping and needed picked up in an
hour and a half. Being already at the harbor, we found things to do till he
arrived.
Marvin took us to the riverside dock where shrimp are
unloaded and showed us around. He showed us a friend’s boat and scooped me out
some shrimp from the deep chest cooler on board so I could take it home. Sandy’s
brother and son both run boats and we got to meet them. Her son nicknamed
“Bubby” showed us his shrimper. He is twenty-five and seemed to know what he
was doing. Just to the right was Eric, Sandy’s brother. He was a sight to
behold. Eric is maybe around forty years old and has the voice and look of a
pirate with his dark beard, leathery skin, long pony tail, and raspy,
commanding voice. Eric came over to us and said something like, “Are you the
two idiots who are canoeing down the river??” We confessed and he laughed,
shaking his head. He put his hands on each side of my head and shook it to see
if he could hear a brain rattling around inside. He then returned to his work
trying to get the shrimp boat motor working. He shuffled around, cigarette in
hand, barking commands to the guy turning the key. We cut back in and asked
Eric if we could go out shrimping with him this evening and he said that he
would but wouldn’t be back till tomorrow at three pm. We were leaving at noon
tomorrow so it apparently wasn’t going to work. I was so bummed, it would have
been the perfect icing on the cake for our trip.
Big George returned shortly from shrimping. He had been gone
since midday yesterday and looked tired, his hair and eyebrows bleached from
the sun. He hadn’t caught much but was in a good mood. For the captain’s chair
he had bolted on the front seat of a car. He, Marvin, Ben, and I piled in the
truck and we went to Big George’s house for lunch. Like many post-Katrina
houses, Big George’s was elevated over ten feet. Ben and I were able to meet
his wife, Ruby, who will be shortly ninety years old. Though she is well along
in years, Ruby is still full of stories and laughter. She pointed to the photo
on the wall of her and Big George in a small aluminum boat, both smiling (his
arm around her) taken in 1952, two years after they were married. In the boat
were a few belongings; “all we had, “she said, “minus the boat. Oh, but it’s
been a wonderful life.” Over to the right, Big George practically fell into his
Lazy Boy with a deep relieving sigh having been out on the water since
yesterday afternoon. The scariest moment of her life had been when she saw the
Northern Lights for the first time while living in Lancaster, PA many years ago.
She thought the world was ending. But she was quick to note: “I don’t get
scared very often. There’s no fun in that.” “I don’t doubt it,” I said with a
laugh.
George and Ruby’s daughter Rose prepared a wonderful meal
for us. We ate heartily and were able to meet Doyle (I think that was his name),
a big freckled man, sun-bleached like every other fisherman we’ve seen. I think
he’s related somehow to the Reno family but I’m not sure. Anyways, the movie “The
Texas Killing Fields” was filmed partially at his house in Louisiana. I guess
there were some big names in it. The crew filmed at night using massive lights
so they wouldn’t have to deal with the sun. One time, Doyle heard a bunch of
gun shots and went out to see what was going on. As he stepped out, a “body”
hit the wall, bullet holes in his chest. He looked up and the director was
motioning him to get down—he was in the shot.
After lunch we were returned to the church where we rested
for the evening. I was writing in my journal across the room when Ben received a
phone call. It was my mother (my phone died). I looked up and Ben put it on
speakerphone. On the other end was Tim Shue and his men’s choir singing live at
a concert the “Sugar Creek Chantey,” the song he had written for the trip
before we left. I beamed and pumped my fists along to the beat and sang along
when the chorus came round. Thank you so much guys. We probably showed the
recording of it (youtube “Sugar Creek Chantey” if you want to check it out) to
half a dozen people before we left for home.

Swartz family plus Marvin (red shirt), Rose (just behind Marvin), and Sandy (holding "Soda" the dog)
Friday morning. Our LAST day in Louisiana. A great sadness came
over me as I realized we only had a few more hours left. We were comforted by
Marvin who came over to check on us. Later, Sandy came bearing fried gator tail
for lunch. I’ve always wanted to try it. Shortly thereafter, Rose came with a
massive tray of freshly boiled shrimp. We enjoyed lunch together and I must
have eaten sixty large shrimp, along with my fill of gator. Those three stayed
with us till Ben’s family arrived. I was taking a load of gear outside when
they pulled up in their new Suburban. Two heads popped out of the passenger
side and a banner was dropped, “Congratulations Ben and Jon. 1984 miles!” It
would have been perfectly choreographed had the sign not been upside down. We laughed
and waved. Once everything was loaded we left for good, waving goodbye to our
friends. After a brief stop at Ft. Jackson (historical pre-civil war fort)
where we said our final goodbyes to the river, we headed for Mississippi. After
“Emily” (the phone GPS) and her “cousin” (the Garmin GPS) had numerous “blonde
moments,” and got uncle Paul lost more than once, we finally made it out of
Louisiana. It was beautiful to drive past the New Orleans skyline at night. We ate
dinner at a local restaurant in Mississippi and then crashed at the Holiday Inn
in Slidell.
Macon, Mississippi was the first destination of the day.
Macon is where Paul grew up during part of his childhood and we were on a
mission to find points of interest for him. We met up with a childhood friend
of his, James Schrock, and he became our tour guide. James showed us where Paul’s
childhood house had been before the highway came through. I think Paul’s bed had
been somewhere between the left median and the rumble strip J. James took us through
the boonies, winding down gravel roads and through the fall forests. He told us
all about the numerous local cat fishing ponds and the cotton farming. We stopped
to check out one of the bales of cotton standing beside the road. The things
are huge, probably 10 by 30
feet and almost ten feet high. We found the building
where Paul’s father had begun a co-op in the sixties for poor black famers,
those who were abused and hated by many f the white people in the area.
From Macon we visited Mashulaville, MS, a place which has
significance for me as well. In Mashulaville we were able to meet Larry and Maxine
Miller, the couple who run the local children’s home. They told us about the
legacy of the Swartz and Detweiler families in the town, how they served the
Native and African Americans during the late ‘50s and early ‘60s when they were
considered the “untouchables” by the white population. Larry encouraged us to
come back again and maybe help out for a summer. Who knows. After dropping
James off at his car, we left for Memphis.
The Harbur family welcomed us weary, night-travelers into
their home. We all ate around their large dining room table and had planned to
play some games but it was so late by the time we finished eating that sleep
took precedence. In the morning, we were able to attend the Harbur’s church
service which was in the home of a friend. John and Angela Plunkett were the
owners of the house and are also starting an organic livestock and produce
farm. The service was fairly short, each getting to pray, share, and sing with
the congregation. After the service there was a delicious meal and a lot of
conversation. I got to meet the man of the home who shares my name and,
apparently, my appearance and thoughts (of farming) as well. From the church we
said our goodbyes and headed for our final stop before home: the Bower home in
Owensboro, KY.
Apparently, the Bower children really enjoyed the time Ben
and I had been able to spend with them and Janna later told us little Elyse had
been asking when Ben was going to be able to hold her again. As we pulled into
the driveway, the whole Bower family was gathered to meet us. The kids were a
little shy at first but warmed up to us again like four little marshmallows in
a microwave. We also got to meet Lydia, the Bowers nanny who just recently
graduated from High School and is living with the Bowers for the time being
until she starts college. Again, there was amazing food put before us and we
talked into the night. Elyse made sure we saw all her “keedo bites” and “boo-boos.”
It was all over when the older two children realized how much I hate being
tickled. They chased me off and on all night.
Monday morning we awoke to another excellent meal (I’m going
to start having to watch it now that I’m sedentary again). The kids took us to
their basement school room and recited and pointed to every African country, US
State and capitol city, and told me off hand the Preamble to the US
Constitution among other countless bits of knowledge. Forget “Are you smarter
than a fifth grader?,” the oldest is seven. However, in the defense of my pride,
Lydia and I both corrected and gave them a few hints now and again. The rest of
the morning was a process of painfully tearing ourselves away from the family
so we could go home. They showed us the back yard and the tree house. After a
few photos it was time to leave for home (well, Ben’s home). We made only one
major stop on the way back, Whole Foods in Cincinnati where we ate and Aunt
Carol got a few groceries. After we parked in front of the store I stepped out
of the car and was finally reunited with Ohio… asphalt. Not the green grass or
freshly fallen leaves I’d hoped for but it’oll do. I knew ya missed me Ohio.
We made it to the Swartz’s home by seven pm and realized Ben
left home August 7 (to come to my house a week before we left) and arrived home
on November 7, exactly three months gone. While the trip is over for him, I still
have to make it home. Tonight my parents are coming to get me and I will be
able to rub my toes in Wayne County soil soon, very soon.
So, I suppose that’s a wrap. I’m sorry if you were hoping
for some grand conclusion or epic philosophical epiphany or thesis for a future
book or something like that. It just feels over. The rest will follow is
suppose.
How many times can I say “THANK YOU” to all those who’ve followed
this website/blog and supported us in some way, shape, or form along the way? It
would take far too long to list y’all here (notice the southern speak). You know
who you are and I tip my sweaty, sun-bleached hat to you. If you want to hear
more stories you’ll probably be able to find me sitting on the bridge over
Sugar Creek, feet dangling over the side, thinking about where the water goes.
So now it’s getting emotional. Goodnight and thanks for
being great human beings. Tomorrow I fulfill the “Sugar Creek Chantey” prophecy
and awake in my own “clean bed sheet”. Life’s complete.
Till next time (and there will be a next time),
Jonathan Daniel Detweiler and Benjamin Paul Swartz





















































When we got back to his place, he gave us sweet corn, green peppers, cucumbers, and another kind of pepper. He let us fill up our water bottles and play with his dog. He was like an instant friend, and we know that no one but the Lord can make someone instantly trust you like that. His little boy hunter rode in the back of the truck with us, and was a funny little guy. He even let us grab some pears on our way down to his beach. We instantly started to journal about the day when we got down to camp. It wasn’t to long, and we heard Chuck coming down the field with his four-wheeler. He stayed with for over 2 hours just talking about everything from guns to how he broke his knee. He ended up giving us both arrow heads that he had found on his land.
